tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post7393820114145542390..comments2023-10-31T09:05:08.006-06:00Comments on The SuperCandid Podcast: Excuse me, while I kiss the skyjonnyflashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06417844872416400954noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post-55996088941688912922008-05-15T12:38:00.000-06:002008-05-15T12:38:00.000-06:00Here's a good forum discussing Doug Phillips' comm...Here's a good forum discussing Doug Phillips' comments about Disney's Narnia movies:<BR/>http://www.christianfilmmakers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1393Awakenpictureshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485094715407886093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post-9020188195780787872008-05-04T20:28:00.000-06:002008-05-04T20:28:00.000-06:00Great comments all. I find it interesting that bo...Great comments all. I find it interesting that both sides in the debate over the Allosaur debate like to throw inseminations at each other. <BR/><BR/>One side calls Phillp's Vision Forum a "repressive patriarchy." The Vision Forum then posts an investigative report that links their critics to white supremacist groups through a rather flimsy speculation.jonnyflashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06417844872416400954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post-86690869320170878512008-05-03T20:41:00.000-06:002008-05-03T20:41:00.000-06:00I'd not heard of this situation with Vision Forum....I'd not heard of this situation with Vision Forum. I looked around and found Vision Forum's responses to the strong accusations against them regarding taking the video off the market. Here's the link:<BR/>http://www.visionforum.com/about/issues/al/Awakenpictureshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485094715407886093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post-68447157727977141332008-05-02T18:15:00.000-06:002008-05-02T18:15:00.000-06:00Films produced with a biblical world view? A very ...Films produced with a biblical world view? A very good idea headed up by a very bad man. This is just bound to eventually blow up in our faces and be just another huge embarrassment for the church. Here's just one example of why this is such a big problem, <A HREF="http://ministrywatchman.com/?p=74" REL="nofollow">Doug Phillips’ Raising The Allosaur</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5725114693508127137.post-28146243363582363812008-05-01T01:24:00.000-06:002008-05-01T01:24:00.000-06:00jonny,I totally appreciate what you are saying her...jonny,<BR/>I totally appreciate what you are saying here. I think this debate raises so many important underlying questions as well:<BR/><BR/>"Can art be actually be 'Christian' or 'Christianized'?"<BR/><BR/>"Who should be the target audience of Christian art? (just Christians? or should it be an evangelism tool to reach non-Christians?)"<BR/><BR/>"Can the Christian sub-culture actually become so insulated, or so far removed from the world that it is neither 'of the world' nor even 'in the world'?"<BR/><BR/>"Should Christians (or Christian leaders) be attempting to 'protect' other Christians from certain themes or certain types of art, or should each person be completely responsible for his/her own critical judgment?"<BR/><BR/><BR/>I think there is definitely a place for Christians both in the Hollywood studio system and in more independent films (whether they are completely DIY--like the Regent University application shorts--or no-name, low-budget, auteur-driven projects, or even the Fox Family/Christiano/Cloud Ten 'mid-level' projects that strive for some mainstream appeal). I totally agree that both Nicolosi and Phillips are missing a pretty big boat--one in which most Christians working in the film industry are rowing and making progress.<BR/><BR/>It is ludicrous to assume that independent films are by their nature poorly made, and just as laughable to assert the underlying argument--that budgeted Hollywood projects are somehow more worthy because of their price tags. Nicolosi is way off base here.<BR/><BR/>Equally flawed is the argument of Phillips--which seems to assume there is some magical holiness barrier that exists between 'Christian' films (no matter how crappy or theologically off-base they may be) and projects touched by the "poisonous" Hollywood industry (no matter what values, lessons, or wisdom they demonstrate).<BR/><BR/>Of course, in the real world outside of these debate vacuums, there are Christians of all stripes making all kinds of films inside Hollywood and making all kinds of art (mainstream, independent, or otherwise). For better or worse, artists as diverse as Martin Sheen, Kevin Smith, Dave Mustaine (of Megadeth), the Indigo Girls, Sean Combs, Sam Jackson, Gary Busey, Dyan Cannon, Enya, and Ben Folds have made strong faith statements at one time or another. (Not to mention the over-publicized Christian beliefs of Bono, Stephen Baldwin, Mel Gibson, and Moby, et al.)<BR/><BR/>So the Christians are already in Hollywood and they are doing their thing. To assume or argue otherwise is to promote a pretty narrow (and naive? or perhaps arrogant?) definition of Christians in service to their Lord. At the same time, to discount independent expressions by Christians is also terribly short-sighted, although it does seem slightly easier for the average Christian with a camera to get a DVD distribution deal within the sub-culture than for 'secular' filmmakers to get a 'break' into the larger industry (although this is true with any niche market that has a proliferation of dollars flowing in and out).<BR/><BR/>OK, long and wordy and it's getting late. Thanks again for all of your thought provoking stuff, jonny. Your blog is seeing some fruit.<BR/>:)<BR/>Best,<BR/>seanheadscratchinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10934696131318225680noreply@blogger.com